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Post by Basileus Romanus on Apr 1, 2011 22:08:37 GMT
I'd like to propose that the Alliance Charter be made part of the constitutional law canon with the orders and the Founder's Charter.
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Post by Imperator Rex on Apr 2, 2011 3:32:36 GMT
Why?
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Post by Adriaticus on Apr 3, 2011 20:12:52 GMT
I got the same question..."why?" I'm not saying it's good or bad. I just don't know why you'd want it included.
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Post by Letor on Apr 3, 2011 20:40:02 GMT
What is the idea with having the alliance corporation documents as constitutional law?
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Post by Sabastos on Apr 4, 2011 16:33:25 GMT
OK...I have the same question as everyone else. What's the point of having this as part of CL?
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Post by Basileus Romanus on Apr 5, 2011 21:54:33 GMT
Being a part of const law, the alliance charter will not be subject to changes and alterations later on. Besides, even though it's a corporate charter, it is basic fundamental law that is the basis for administration in the Continental Alliance. That is the main reason why I though it should be included with the rest of the package.
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Post by Adriaticus on Apr 6, 2011 1:49:18 GMT
Well...ok. I guess that makes sense, but the Alliance is part of the Continental Union and part of its deal with the CU is to abide by its constitutional law. One of the regional orders creating the region is part of CL. I think we're starting to add things instead of slimming it down. I really don't think it's ncessary to include it.
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Post by Sabastos on Apr 6, 2011 15:03:41 GMT
I have to agree with Adrianica. I don't see the need to put the Alliance Charter in with constitutional law. The Alliance Charter is for the Continental Trust and just outlines how the trust will manage the alliance. The existence of the alliance is already part of constitutional law in the forum of the two ROIC's that created it. Those ROIC's are part of constitutional law.
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Post by Cardecion on Apr 6, 2011 18:51:12 GMT
I thought the commission was supposed to make things easier and cut out the excess fat. I don't see why more stuff should be added if it's already in there anyway. Keep it concise.
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Post by Exarchos on Apr 6, 2011 19:18:36 GMT
I'd say keeping it simple is always better. I keep seeing in the comments about this that everyone is looking to simplify so why add more stuff?
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Post by Yávaros on Apr 6, 2011 23:47:15 GMT
Oh Basileus! Why you need to complicate all this? JK! I will agree with everyone else. I do not believe that it is necessary. There are guarantees already in the council orders that are part of constitutional law. I think that I know why you want it with the rest of them but I do not think that we need to do it.
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Post by Marzano on Apr 7, 2011 0:56:53 GMT
I can understand your points, but I don't see the harm with including it if it just mean posting the document without going through to edit it. But, just like with the other documents that are part of the constitution law, it cannot change. That may be a problem later if the corporation requires a change.
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Post by Letor on Apr 7, 2011 20:54:30 GMT
Now I understand why Basileus is wanting to do this. But if there some things about the alliance in the constitutional already, why do more things need to be repeated?
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Post by Dragos on Apr 9, 2011 20:23:40 GMT
I support Basileus but I don't think making the articles of incorporation a part of this law is necessary.
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Post by Imperator Rex on Apr 10, 2011 2:36:58 GMT
Well...it looks like most feel that the Articles of Incorporation for the Continental Trust (AKA, the Alliance Charter) should not be a part of Constitutional Law. This seems to be the most correct course of action. As usual I save my opinions for last. I still have some difficulty understanding why the AAI (Alliance Articles of Incorporation) should be a part of immutable Constitutional Law. The existence of the Continental Alliance is already guaranteed by two ROICs that are a part of Constitutional Law already. The AAI is a an Articles of Incorporation for the Continental Trust, not the Continental Alliance. These are two different entities. One is a region in its own right, and the other is the "management company" that has been chartered to adminstrate the region. Two different concepts representing two different things. There is no need to tie a capital trust in with fundamental law...especially when the ROIC establishing the Trust and granting it the authority to govern the region states that the Founder's Council can revoke this authority at any time. So, Basileus, the moral of the story is you best play nice with others or they'll take your toys away!
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