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Post by Triune Monarchy on Mar 21, 2012 23:42:34 GMT
@ Everyone who posted here:
You guys know how to create good topics and responses. I can say that a lot of people (especially on more anonymous sites like this one where you can't see or know a person's background) either go way too far to the point of being insulting with topics like race and ethnicity or they completely shy away from it. I thought this entire dialogue was very interesting.
@tre. You're right about the "deficiency" thing. I think that was the wrong word to use. No one is deficient but sometimes certain cultural habits or identifiers cause issue with others an create more problems than they should.
@ Exarchos. No need to worry. You recounted a story that didn't make certain people look very pleasant. I think that's what kind of got me going a little bit. The same people who demand to be respected can be the first ones to disrespect. I've seen similar situations like that one in the past and it always makes me upset to see it. Yes, they are being hypocrites.
Keep these topics coming. I think they help people examine the world around them.
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Post by The Ruescher Empire on Mar 22, 2012 0:18:25 GMT
Hmmm perhaps you are right when you say deficiency was the incorrect word to use. I was not trying to imply that people were stupid, but as you said, I would think that perhaps misstep would have been a better word. No one is deficient, but our reasoning has missteps. Bah semantics really, people know what I am referring to  Also I`ve already had my days of internet experimentation on seeing how people react to those who are racially insensitive or down right racist. It was around the time I looked into the truth about National Socialism and how Nazism was essentially bastardized by the Western world so that it would never have a chance again. Those days are past however, and while National Socialism is interesting, people's reaction to it, and other racially charged comments always turn out to be very predicable. So there is no point forcing myself to act such a way. Where was I going with this.... |
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Post by Basileus Romanus on Mar 22, 2012 2:08:51 GMT
Forms of National Socialism have been put in place successfully (at least for a while) in some countries. Spain, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Paraguay, Uraguay, Dominican Republic...all in varying degrees, mind you. Now some of them were more oppressive than others, like in Spain. Of course that's because of their relationship with the Roman Catholic Church. People almost automatically link Nazi Germany with National Socialism. The Nazis took this to a violent and racist extreme, where other countries were just interested in the politics of nationalism and socialism (to some degree). That's my opinion. I'm sure this concept is actually more sujective than objective. OK there's my half-way intelligent post for the month. I'm hoping it cancels out my Fox New post! Ha!
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Post by The Ruescher Empire on Mar 22, 2012 3:02:45 GMT
As you say it was implemented in varying degrees to various levels of success in many different countries, but true National Socialism never took place. The same as true Communism never took place (thank god for that one). Too bad really, I woulda liked to have seen it come to fruition. Alas it will never be so. But it is such a good system of government and policy....
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Post by Imperator Rex on Mar 22, 2012 5:53:10 GMT
This is very true...neither Communism nor National Socialism were never truly implemented anywhere. That is because those leaders who attempted to install those systems corrupted the concepts to fit their own agendas for personal power. In its purist form, Communism would function without the benefit of a "government." Utopian concepts require a modicum of ultristic values on the part of society. People are not ultristic and will generally do things only if they see a personal benefit. That is why these political ideas can never work without some kind of oppressive undertones.
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Post by The Ruescher Empire on Mar 24, 2012 21:28:17 GMT
Hmmm I dunno about National Socialism, though Communism I would agree with you. The idea of living to improve the state instead of one's own life (primarily) seems like it would be an easy sell. Well woulda been an easier sell in the 1900s...I like the idea of fervent nationalism tied together with socialism. People would not take advantage of socialist policies as they do now, and would work for the good of the country. Of course that could (and likely would) lead to wars, but it would help our population problem Sigh I know it will never work, but i like to dream. Won't even talk about the garbage that communism spews forth as ideology |
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